For my students:

you can also go to

valex.on.ufanet.ru

to download the SPEX Vocabulary 700 words for the Secondary school exam

tyghb
hello

Hi for everybody!,...I'm posting in this theme at first))) think that it will be very good idea-we gonna make some real english-chat.....any ideas?......soon ;)

hello! My name are Marat. Me is wanting to speaking English! But i is not knowing it good.

Practice! (c) El Mariachi ;)

Thank you very much! Me will trying hard.

What does that mean?

"Practice! (c) El Mariachi " :confused:

Google rules.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Mariachi

Yah, thank you I got it. The problem was (and is) what to do with the English language learning? Any ideas? Why what this movie mentioned when they talked about English? Thank you again (see above)

I just named this topic in English, but nobody's understood :(
Now this name in Russian)

You are welcome.

Practice is fastest and most efficient way to succeed in learning any language. If you really want to do that, there are tons of opportunities out there. You could try "English club" in BSU or "American Corner" of the “Validi” library. There should be people that are eager to practice English together. You could also use Skype to get in touch with the native-speakers. Reading English books could be quite helpful too. There also are multiple exchange programs that give people opportunity to visit English-speaking country.

And that is just a minor fraction of all the opportunities that are available for people willing to enhance their English-related skills.

"When there is a will, there is a way" (c) ELO

I have not seen the movie itself, though I do know the plot. My wild guess is that's just some line by protagonist.

Any language needs practicing. When there is a will, there is a way. Go abroad, there are a lot of programs out there. Also do get some english movies, you can learn some uncommon phrases that they don't teach in schools. :D I am not sure if it's a good thing for you...But at least you will not stand out in the crowd speaking proper English all the time. And last but not least, go online to US or British chats and try to practice that way. My sister used to do that a lot. So when she came to the US, her English wasn't that bad. Hope that can help.

By the way, rent El Mariachi. Here you will see example of spanglish. (english with spanish accent). Antonio Banderas is hot, hot, hot. It's about musicians who play the music as good as they can kill.... ;)

Where can I rent it in English? You are kidding?
No seriously? I do not know the stores to rent video with the English audio stream or subtitles. Any ideas? ;-) greatly appreciated.

I think you can rent in big libraries (ex. Validi), but you should have a library ticket.

It is a great thing to have the proper English.
I used to have one and I miss it a lot.

Why all russian people are so uptight??? (mind I am not meaning russian vs. other nationalities) :)) I mean the way they teach us English just has no life. I am glad that when I was in Russia, I had a young girl who had studied at the States to teach us English. People should not be afraid to speak English! Just start talking, the best way you can to break the language barrier and to get confidence.
Hey, man, sorry I wasn't really pounding on you. I just used your quote for the heck of it. :))

When did yoy return from the program? I guess there are a lot of them here. I am FLEX too.

I wonder if that theme is as so popular in that board as sex,cars, society and nation matters?

What was all this about? :)

I came back in 2000 (NY). It was a great time :)

When did you get back?
I have not seen a lot of FLEX people around here: Maxman(Texan), MereDith, baby_doll (-Rina-). There could be some more sneaking in the shadows around here :)

You can try this thread.

Hey, you can burn movies on DVD from Napster.com or any other similar sites. It shouldn't be that expensive and you can burn anything you want.

i have about 200 dvds and most of all are with russian and original streams...

Could you post a list of those?

there is no antonio banderas in 1is part named El Mariachi
only in desperado and once apon a time in mexico

with english stream?
i've been studied english in london some years ago but it's difficult for me to understand everything right... just some phrases

Yes, you are correct.

PS: It is my fault. My sentence from the previous post was incomplete.

We don't need no education!
We don't need no thought control!
Hey, teachers!
Leave the kids alone!

Guess, V.D. gotta stand for Venerial Disease or something, eh? :eek: I should never have thought there may be someone around working for VD... :D

nah nah me duz not speek Ingleesh http://www.animac.ru/smiles/invision/109.gif

i cant figure it out, but wanna join'em too:) lol
maybe we should start our won?

;)

2 undomiel: about turnips & rutabagas http://www.animac.ru/smiles/invision/123.gif

i know im funny

lol thanx i kno..................

this convo doesn't seem to have too many words :D

срочно требуется высокопрофессиональный переводчик с русского на англ., писать в приват!

huh? .............

yea, open your eyes - the title above says ENGLISH, not padonkavski ezyk, HELLO!! :p

You're
just another Brick in the wall?

Hey, dude, you must be working hard for you V.D., as well... How's life? What's shaking? Got married yet? :p Or, you'd like to keep on fucking around and doing fuck all (typical Meouth, anyway)? :D

veneral disease? http://www.animac.ru/smiles/invision/101.gif i dont have any, sorry to dissapoint you
why should I? I am a paedophile and quite happy as an English teacher(lots of boys, u know):D

geez youre totally fucked up :rolleyes:

Also be not surprised each time why you are blocked.

I'm not. Moreover, I wonder why I hadn't been blocked until the very recent time. :p

All of them fags get one sooner or later, I guess. Are you not the case?
Or better yet, you should have said: "Why should I have to?" You gotta be well aware of that, as an English teacher ;)

Get married and stop fucking the dog! :D

"Don't get surprised
When a crack in the ice
Appears under your feet........(c)"

Try and guess who sang that one?

English - это попса

Ага, точно. Попса сакс, а хард-рок надо петь по-китайски (на худой конец, по-албански). Ну ты атжог! :D

Попса в смысле что все его изучают и везде распространен и трет уши :D

Alexandr:):) you could definately say that in English your English is great;)
so do you have any ideas about some other language we should speak, how about Spanish?) lol
hablas espanol?) :D

2 Undomiel - @RWEN
There are quite a few of us who lived for about a year in US?

И все же. Космополитизм не есть гуд, как и любая масс-культура. Тут дело даже не в политическом аспекте вопроса, а в культурном. Я вот например не хочу питаться в фаст-фудах, говорить на инглише и чтоб со мной общались на нем. Не хочу чтоб моя будущая дочь, допустим, вышла замуж за негра. Не хочу чтоб на экранах крутили тока тупые голливудские комедии. Короч я против культурной ассимиляции.

Хм, Камилл, у меня уже скоро два года наберется ))
Да вот только после времени, проведенного в забугорье, свой английский хорошим уже назвать не могу.

ИМХО, это к студентам ФРГФ, которые вместо США были в UK.

Культурное перемешивание - не такая уж и плохая вещь в глобальном масштабе. Ибо замкнутые на себя системы обычно хорошо не кончают.

Если же забить на глобальные вещи и начать думать индивидуально, то тут все наоборот. Недаром же, при прочих равных условиях, стабильнее браки между представителями одной культуры. Не так сильно нужно притираться друг к другу и идти на компромиссы.

As far as 'stupid' American comedies are concerned - dont judge about them unless u watch them in English. Cause u see, its not most of them that are stupid, its most of people who translate them into Russian who are ;)

Я как-то не заметил особой разницы между "Married with children" в нашем и родном исполнении. В обоих случаях - неплохой комедийный сериал

Apropos, китайцы, придерживающиеся традиционных оздоровительных систем, очень хорошо умеют как раз "кончать в себя" (в буквальном смысле);) . В более широком контексте, именно это умение оставаться "вещью в себе", экстраполированное на политику и мировоззрение, позволяет Китаю сохранять самобытность и независимость от внешнего мира и уже не первое тысячелетие оставаться именно что саморазвивающейся и самодостаточной замкнутой системой...

А я вот не замечаю ничего общего у переводов амер. комедий сих оригиналами. полвина текста переведена неправильно; другая половина вообще не переведена. все приколы, кроме самых примитивных, - переведены калькой, что их разумеется убивает. Добавьте к этому тошнотворные голоса дублёров - и получите еще одну 'тупую американскую комедию'. Иногда я думаю, что это чейто заказ по дискредитации Америки.

ипатий: независимость? а ты знаешь на кого работает 90% их экономики и чем обусловлен ее рост в посл 10 лет? ;)

А у них точно рост??))

Вот по поводу роста я бы так громко не кричала..с чего бы это им к нам лицом вдруг поворачиваться ? (я не про ЯО)

59 и 75 лет. продолжительность жизни мужчин здесь и там(женская меньше настолько же)

может дело не только в еде?:rolleyes:

the main factors of death in Russia are heart problems(caused by nutrition) and alcoholism.

ну прям удивил :D

При чем тут ацтой? Впадение в крайности на фоне юнышеского максимализма :D. Есси че, я почти год в америке проработал, так что знаю о чем говорю. По мне так лучше, чтоб мои дети и внуки были одного цвета кожи со мной ИМХО и говорили на русском. А про картошку с салом итп ваще какую-то туфту написала. И про богатых и бедных тож не в тему. Есси че, это только у нас в фаст фудах есть дорого. На западе- это еда для низшего класса. Богатые люди там не питаются.

бедняжко 7-40. сафсем расо- и плебсофобия замучали. конечно твои дети м.быть тока белыми аристократами, и лучше им умереть чем быть черными из среднего класса лол. лячись

Hey, guys!
How about some English?
This conference board has been supposed to be in English.
Pardon if it sucks
Yours
valex

..........

i'm shocked! Myaut's english is very-very good!!!

yea yea, i know i rule and u love and adore me :d

мазер дарлинк

Тебя не спрашивали

it's look like song of V. Tsoy, continuation:

solnce svetit i rastet trava no tebe ona ne nuzhna!

2 la vida, hmmm its wonderful and glorious. lol :)

Космополитизм - вещь конечно заманчивая, особенно, если определять его как "идеологию "мирового гражданства", ставящую интересы человечества выше интересов отдельной нации" (Ожегов С.И., Шведова Н.Ю. Толковый словарь русского языка - М., 2002)... Однако ж в условиях тенденции к глобализации, обусловленной созданием все новых способов коммуникаций, в том числе Интернета, все же наблюдаются противоположные процессы: объединившись с миром, люди начинают задумываться о своей культурной самобытности, и посмотрев, как живут другие и примерив на себя их модель поведения, начинают понимать, что уж лучше они будут жить по-своему, и другого не надо! Все это объясняется просто разностью менталитетов: что немцу хорошо, русскому смерть... Надо найти и сохранить себя...

простите эйприл рейн, но я хочу быть скорее американским предприимчивым яппи нежели жалким росийским мужиком пропившим талант. к черту такую нац. идентичность, Да здравствует космополитизм!

:D :D :D а что вам мешает быть российским предприимчивым яппи?:p

ничего не понятно- обидно

2 эйприл: а это и есть американизация. нету русских яппи, это концепция пришла оттуда

2 undomiel oh thanx, no problem. lol

привет!!!никто не может помочь а?надо перевести доклад на англ язык состоит из 3-4 страниц печатного текса,очень нужно в течение недели:)

Dear Flexes!

American- Bashkort Summer Camp needs a councilor from 26June to 14July.

Write to the Private Messages.

Yours

Valex

Q: What do Michael Jackson and PlayStation2 have in common?
A: Little boys turn them on. :D

- What's the difference between a girl going out from the chirch and a girl going out from the bath?
- The girl, going out from the chirch has full of hope in her soul, and the girl going out from the bath has full of soap in her hole.

read it aloud and then say it's not hillarious if you dare)))

2 drucilla может я чегото непонимаю, но церковь пишется church , и IS full of ... a не has.
yeah the joke itself is hilarious :p
------
-Janet, why did God make you women so beautiful yet so stupid?
-Well, he made us beautiful so that you men could love us, and he made us stupid so that we could love you.

цена? :confused:

i dunno where did i get this joke, but it's really funny:

An elderly man walks into a confessional. The following conversation ensues:
- I am 92 years old, have a wonderful wife of 70 years, many children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. Yesterday, I picked up two college girls, hitchhiking. We went to a motel, where I had sex with each of them three times.
Priest:
- Are you sorry for your sins?
- What sins?
- What kind of a Catholic are you?
- I'm Jewish.
- So, why are you telling me all this?
- I'm telling everybody.

matrix, i know that one, haha

я не знаю...народ сколько примерно это будет никто не в курсе?:)
могу сама перевести,но с временами я не очень дружу да и нужны они только для офиц...:))

servatis a periculum
servatis a maleficum

what that's mean?

well, it means.. umm, ok let me think. ummm... amm... ughhh.., eh sorry man, i dont remember. lol :D

hey, where will be this camp?:confused: :confused: :confused:

a damn old joke :rolleyes: :D

hey, guys, who have ever been in France?

Aga s church eto moy kosyak, a vot has full of hope - eto bez kommentariev, v znachenii "imeetsya! po lyubomu

hello. i like to cumshot in a face. and you?

2 drucila: ok

2 little fella from nazi latvia: i prefer throat

u ppl r sick! ..

yepp, n we truly enjoy our sickness.

I have been to Ukraine.

Oh, how bloody gorgeous. Excuse my Klatchian :D

huh?

10 cbvdjkjd

I would advise reading some novels by Mr Terry Pratchett)
Especially, ehm, speaking about Klatch and klatchian... "Patriot" is the best) for further understanding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld

weugh.... it all seems to be too complicated... a whole fictional world right? i couldnt find the novel ure talking about

Jingo is the thing) A synonim for Patriot also) I dunno, maybe another flaw by our translators

Waahhh... I desperately want "Capre Jugulum" at least in English (or even better in English) But I dunno where to get it...

u cant find it on the internet or u are just not ok with an electronic copy and want a book?

I need a book, sweetie, but yeah, electronic copy would be ok, 'cuz this book seems to be really something) Unfortunately, I'm not good at finding these in the internet)

i think its carpe, not "capre"
http://www.yandex.ru/yandsearch?rpt=...=carpe+jugulum

Ah, das ist mir ganz egal.))
He-he can't help speaking German... but anyways it's about the Witches and vampires, is there anything better?
Maybe only something new about Death of Discworld)))

^_^ found it *totally happy*

Insanity
poem
by Randy Lane

Insanity it's just a state of mind, for those who claim to know it all.

Know it all they claim, I know it all!

The faces of those who think they know, may be your next door neighbour or a friend, who claim to know it all, they claim they do.

Insanity...insanity, it's just a state of mind; the prisons are full, of their kind, oh so blind!

Needlessly confused, from all of the abuse, what's the use.

Insane but still alive.

кто нибудь может перевести ?!

может своими словами хоть расскажешь?!:confused:

что ты имеешь ввиду? :confused:
I just liked your poem...

2 санд, вкратце там про людей которые думают что все знают, и делается намек что это не так тк. например тюрьмы полны таких людей. тебе же перевод нужен был да?

ты уверен ?! ... хотя из твоего понимания я ничего не понял

да, там говорится что те кто утверждают что знают все - психически больные. кстати я не согласен с таким критерием.

а ты не пробывал со словарем?

я тоже не согласен , даже глупо !
ты мой словарь :D

ах польщен!

expansion подойдет?
контекст скажи, расширение чего?

эх...ну че никто не знает??(((
у меня млин как назло из головы вылетело..письмо срочно пичасть нада(
хнык( :(

аааааааааа...вот ты о чем, тогда это не технич, а компьютерная тематика скорее:p
filename extension или просто file type

обращайся, постараюсь помочь если что...;)

млин памоёму какойт друг слово...ну лан попробую так...мерси)

а формат? (тож техн) тип формат электрон. карт?

ну што ж ты такая неверующая?
file extension=filename extension=расширение файла
или просто file type - тоже поймут!!!
про формат электронных карт это уже след вопрос???:D
о каком формате ты говоришь? покоректнее сформулируй вопрос плиз...

мля, мы с табой на разных языках разговариваем кажется...
я чот не понимаю чо такое электронные карты???
credit cards? memory cards? и где поддерживаются или кем/чем поддерживаются???
gosh, u make me think girl...=)))

я тоже думаю что extention, хотя помоему нет ничего проще чем гугльнуть и узнать говорят так или не

thnks you're the best ;)

file extension, you mean, yeah?

все уже читали блогг американца в уфе? ufablog.blogspot.com
хотя собственно про уфу там не так много, в основном про расизм в россии; афтар занимается панкроком и иногда пишет как он зажигает в уфимских клубах

This is David. He used to work for the FRITONIKA store, Intercollege. He is studying at the Art Academy in Ufa. What is so special aboy his blog?

nothing, xept the fact he's the only American to blog from Ufa. do you know him in person?

Yeah, I know him. He also works as a translator for a couple of Moscow magazines. If you have read his blog, what was worth reading? I have no intention to waste time - the site is too big.Just give me some directions - what is worth paying attention to?
Appreciate.

OK, you needn't waste your time. It'll take me kind of too long to sort out all the entries in that blog and put together a list of links to those I appreciate, don't you think so?
As for me, simply a blog by an American living in my city is worth reading, maybe just because I'm oddly curious.

I didnt really like the guy either...like his comments and stuff...but thats only my opinion :)

must be he's as sick as me n that's why i do like him

what seems 'sick' to you does not necessarily seem that way to me. you see, i just adapted it for you

я не совсем понял...

Name and thing are often wedded at the recollective-analytic and the symbolic levels. A subject will say the word "Mother" and feel that the word itself contains aspects of his own mother—or of his memories of her. A theology student will say "Logos" and imagine that God and Christ are both present within the word. Only after the drug's effects begin to wear off can these individuals tear the words apart from the experience.
As with other language processes, psychedelic substances can affect the act of writing by bringing about a regressive-type phenomenon (in which words and experience are united, as they often are with the child and with the primitive tribesman) or else improve the process (by removing "writer's block," facilitating verbal expression, etc.). In some cases both occur, as when a writer engages in concrescence of word and thing at the symbolic or integral level and later presents a vivid written descriplion of that experience.
To assist the encoding of psychedelic experience, an "experimental typewriter" has been invented by Ogden Lindsley and William Getzinger (Leary, 1966a). The typewriter has twenty pens, any of which can be depressed by the subject to describe his ongoing experience. The subject must be trained in the use of the device and must learn the code that assists him to describe his psychedelic sensations and reactions. For example, the first key is depressed whenever bodily sensations are experienced; the third key is depressed when feelings about other people are experienced. Although further refinement of this device is needed, the research possibilities seem extensive. A subject could tap out a second-by-second sequence of his experiences, and communicate them at least in general terms. Experience patterns could be correlated with neurological recordings. A guide could keep a close watch on the subject's reactions should it be felt advisable to modify the experience.
In one first-person report (Roseman, 1966), a subject claimed that he learned how to become a skilled typist by means of psychedelic experience. Instead of emphasizing the more ideational aspects of the writing process, the subject concentrated on sheer motor activity. First, he familiarized himself with the keyboard and learned the proper fingering techniques. To reinforce the matching of fingers and typewriter keys, he took LSD, began to type, and continued for several hours.
This subject's claims regarding a facilitation in motor function are provocative and need to be explored under controlled conditions. Peter Laurie (1967) has suggested that the act of writing may be feasible under light doses of psychedelic substances but, for most people, impossible under heavy doses. In the case of writing, therefore, one is struck by the same variety of reports as one encounters with other forms of language; certain people under certain conditions claim that their writing functions are enhanced, others assert writing is impaired, and still others report no discernible difference.

бери словорь и вперет

а ты не поможешь ?!:)

фсмысле ты перевести просиш или объяснить смысл текста?

лучше первое , конечно ! но второе тоже очень хорошо!:)

Вот Промтовский механизированный перевод - общую суть текста он передает. Отредактируй дальше сам

Название(имя) и вещь часто преданы в переколлективно-аналитическом и символическом уровнях. Субьект будет говорить слово " Mother " и чувствовать, что само слово содержит аспекты его собственной матери - или его воспоминаний ее. Студент богословия будет говорить " Логос " и вообразит, что Бог и Христос оба существующие в пределах слова. Только после того, как эффекты препарата(наркотика) начинают постепенно проходить, смогут эти индивидуумы оторвать слова от опыта.
Как с другими процессами языка, психоделические вещества могут затрагивать акт письма, вызывая явление регрессивного типа (в котором слова и опыт объединены, часто - с ребенком и с субьектом примитивного племени) иначе улучшают процесс (удаляя " зажим" автора, при облегчении устного выражения, и т.д.). В некоторых случаях так и происходит, когда автор участвует в пересечении слова и вещи на символическом или составном уровне и последнее представляет яркое письменное описание того опыта.
Помогать зашифровыванию психоделического опыта, " экспериментальная пишущая машинка " была изобретена Огденом Линдслеем и Уильямом Гецингером (Leary, 1966a). Пишущая машинка имеет двадцать ручек, любая из которых может быть снижена, чтобы описать его продолжающийся опыт. Предмет должен быть обучен в использовании устройства и должен изучить кодекс, который помогает ему описывать его психоделические сенсации и реакции. Например, первый ключ понижен(угнетен) всякий раз, когда целиком сенсации испытаны; третий ключ понижен(угнетен), когда чувства о других людях испытаны. Хотя дальнейшая обработка этого устройства необходима, возможности исследования кажутся обширными. Субьект мог выявлять посекундную последовательность его опытов, и сообщать им по крайней мере в общих сроках(терминах). Образцы Опыта могли быть коррелированые с неврологической регистрацией. Руководящий гид мог держать близкое наблюдение на реакциях предмета, должен это чувствоваться желательным изменить опыт.
В одном сообщении одного человека (Roseman, 1966), предмет утверждал, что он учился, как стать квалифицированной машинисткой посредством психоделического опыта. Вместо подчеркивания более воображаемых аспектов процесса письма, предмет, сконцентрированный на явной моторной деятельности. Сначала, он ознакомил себя с клавиатурой и узнал надлежащий указывающий пальцем на методы. Чтобы укреплять соответствие пальцев и ключей пишущей машинки, он брал LSD, начал напечатать, и длительный в течение нескольких часов.
Заявления Этого субьекта относительно облегчения в моторной функции провокационные и должны исследоваться при управляемых условиях(состояниях). Питер Лаури (1967) предложил, что акт письма может быть выполним под легкими дозами психоделических веществ(сущностей), но, для большинства людей, невозможных под тяжелыми дозами. В случае письма, поэтому, каждый поражен тем же самым разнообразием сообщений как сталкиваешься с другими формами языка; некоторые люди под некоторыми условиями заявляют, что их функции письма увеличены, другие утверждают, письму вредят, и тем не менее другие не сообщают ни о каком заметном различии.

респект ! !

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What Now?

With the tragic events of 2 November 2004, a world of conscious, informed people are angry and frustrated at the foolishness of so many Americans. But as those feelings subside into a dull ache that will surely accompany the next 4 years, many are wondering what they can do now. This has been composed to help identify the courses of action that remain.



LEAVE THE COUNTRY

No doubt, many Americans — those who have traveled and those who have not — are considering finding a new country of residence, one which values the lives of 100,000 Iraqis more than the ability to keep gay people from getting married. Fortunately, there are plenty. As Western, developed countries go, the USA occupies an extreme conservative fringe in terms of social and political thought.

Probably the most accessible of these is Canada. The weather may suck in the wintertime, but the culture is warmer. Mainstream attitudes in Canada are significantly more liberal than those of the American Democrats. If you move there, you're not likely to run up against some yahoo who thinks the epitome of freedom is to drop tons of bombs a country he can't find on a world map. If you don't have a compelling reason why the Canadians should let you in (political refugee status has yet to be established for those who simply hate the president), then try here:
Marry An American



Besides Canada, the world is full of wonderful places that are more congenial to human life than the US of A under the current regime. Save your pennies and head out. Make sure your passport is current before BushCo makes international travel for recreational purposes illegal.



SAVE THE "GOOD" AMERICANS

If you're not American and are beginning to regard the whole lot of us as dangerous, slack-jawed idiots, wait just a second. Please understand that 48% of us voted to do the right thing, and many of us worked hard behind the scenes to help that cause along. Don't lump us in with our lazy, fascist, good-for-nothing cousins!

Instead, reach out to the Americans you do know, who are quite likely in this minority of "good" Americans. (Those who voted for He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named are rarely if ever travelers, and with any luck you've never met them.) Let liberal Americans know you're not holding them personally responsible for this disaster. And if you're up for it, help them emigrate to your country. Marry one of them, or start a business with them.



STAY IN AMERICA TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT

If, as an American, you think abandoning the country to the fascists is a bad idea, unpatriotic or whatnot, then good for you. The world needs people with the patience and endurance to fight (non-violently, of course) against the forces of greed and oppression.

Unfortunately, between now and the next congressional elections in 2006, there's fuck-all you can do in terms of working with the government. Ours is now a single-party dictatorship, controlling the executive and legislative branches of government, and in many ways the judicial as well.

However, even such corrupt institutions have to obey certain laws from time to time. For example, for the time being there are still laws protecting civil liberties and the environment. While there is no hope that the current regime will enforce those laws, others will. Joining or contributing to these organizations will help stop the massive backslide of progress.

The American Civil Liberties Union – Throughout the first 4 years, these people have successfully launched lawsuits which have stopped Bush from implementing some of his worst civil liberties abuses.

The National Resources Defense Council – These fine people launched lawsuits which helped prevent oil drilling in Alaska, and numerous other aspects of Bush's grand plan to pave and toxify the world.

MoveOn.org – While the election was lost, it was a very narrow loss thanks to the largest grassroots political movement in the history of the world. This movement is not going away, and will surely be back to fight another day.



REMAIN POSITIVE

At the end of the day, and at the beginning, we all determine our own reality. While many of us may have focused on politics in the belief that we could change the outcome of the election, that belief did not come through. So, remember the Serenity Prayer, accepting the things you cannot change while changing the things you can. Travel the world, and show other nations that there's more to this country than that simpering imbecile who monopolizes the news coverage. Focus on the glass being half full, and share that focus in your personal relationships , your community, and the planet.

About the above mentioned - what does that mean to you??
What was unusual or weird??

whats the english for "с легким паром" ?

принят официальный перевод, например
Ирония судьбы, или с легким паром! / The Irony of Fate, or "Enjoy Your Bath" (1975)
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Anybody still wants?

ЧО СДЕСЯ?

ГДЕ Я ??? :confused:

love note
One night, a boy was super pissed that he didnt do so hot in his
basketball game, while he was going on and on about how he
should of done better. His girlfriend dropped by to say hi before
she went out with her friends. While she was there she tried to
give him a note, but he wasn't paying any attention, all he was
doing was sreaming about how he should of done better in that
stupid game of his. He barely seem to have noticed she left.
That night while she was out, she got into a bad
accident and her friend died instantly, she was in critical
condition. That same night the girls parents called him and told
him what happend, he quickly drove to the hospital. He ran into
the room and tried to hug her, but she was tied up to all kinds of
equipment, he felt so bad that he didn't talk to her before she
left. The doctors came in and told him he had to leave now, just
as he was walking out she handed him something. It was the
same note she tried to give him back at his house. As he walked
out of the room he opened the note and started reading it, as he
read it he fell to his knees. The note said "I love you more then
anything in the world, I couldn't live without you", as soon as he
read it her heart moniter flat-lined and she died that night.

those story above... seems like a scenes of music clip Jojo "it's just too little too late", but the end of the story diffes from clip - she's alive there ))) but still she's hurt (mental)
So, "love note" is not an appropriate name of story
better will be "Happy St.Valentine's Day"!
Girls, this is essence of our boys - they are terrible

О чем ента ти?:confused:

апять транс?:eek:

пситранс :D

стало интересно что за "should of", стал искать и нарыл отличный ресурс - электронная версия книги "Common Errors in English".

а "should of" это оказывается как мы слышим "should've" то есть "should have".
"should of" в письменной речи - ошибка :)

really? what would of we done without u.. :D :D

тьфу! нигеры... :D

hehe.. didn't u mean "НЕГОры"? :D :D

I mean НЕГР = НЕГРамотный human :)

НЕГРамотный human, hehe..

...speaking of which, human is an adjective. If u'd wanted to say it grammatically correct u should OF sad human being or just a person… no offence, but u'v proven yourself :D ;)

Ribyata, davaite ni budem srat' f haroshei teme *snimaya shtanj* ))))

Hmm, why every time that I post something here everybody starts telling me this? :D And guys, lets speak English. I know that adopting Latin letters is already something for you but it is clearly not English yet... ;)

;) guys, let's make our life easier, let's speak adopting latin letters ))) it would be fun, it's not russian at all, but, at the same time, it's not english neither. So, let's try to transmite our thoughts using latin letters, will see who will be better understanding each other.

frankly speaking i see somebody writing should OF for the first time ever!
heh...didn't know it's a common mistake...:D

hahahaha!!! proper english!!!:D
don't mention this word combination no more, it was an apple of discord some time ago...
don't want it to happen again;)

would u please explain what you mean in simple words, cuz i didn't get you...
what's "let's speak adopting latin letters"
we don't use no letters when we speak, cuz it's oral speech....
hahahahaha the last sentemce makes me laugh again:p

WILL see (instead of we'll see:D ) nice, ME LIKE IT:D

excuse me, but what's wrong with "this combination"?:rolleyes:

p.s. you mean "dont mention it anymore"?:)

definitely nothing)))
the notion is so vague that nobody really knows what it really means:p
and no one has yet given me a more or less adequate definition for it.
but everyone keeps saying properenglish-proper english-proper english.....
i'm telling you - we had some arguments concerning the notion somewhere in the beginning of the topic, so read carefully all the 27 pages and u'll see what i mean.;)
gdluck

yes, exactly so, mam! saying "don't mention it no more, i mean don't mention it any more" but there is a slight stylistic difference between the sentences.
making double negation (don't...no more) I'm emphasizing the fact that you should not do it under no circumstances. like in the song "we don't need no education"
double negation is ok, not a mistake;)

you started it....
anyways keep on trying:p
BTW what's so bad about my english?

2 La Vida
your english is pretty good, where did you learn it?

what u call mistakes, i call colloquial style.
keep on trying babe:p

You've forgot that he is a redneck... We can let them speake as they want to ... It is another language:)
By the way...Anabody wants to speake French??

C ума сойти! :) Какая борьба разворачивается за правильный английский, тогда как на этом же форуме русский ничуть не в лучшем положении :D

[QUOTE=sand]а это что ?!http://www.ccc.ac/2001/grafix/splashpage/new_map.jpg

Thoughts like that would lead to nothing but hate between the North and the South... I don't think anybody wants the second Civil War. I know "good" americans, who live in the South and I know good americans who voted for "Him"

thanx.

Je parle un petit peu. Pas de tous bien, mais souffisement pour la vie... je crois pas dans la grammaire... Parle , parle, c'est important!

But she's right - your title sais you're a "local redneck"? You said it....

You welcome... I have a special feeling about 'em

By the way...Why?

babe, this is not a college here and it's not a Stete exam in the English language either! it's the fkucing internet and we are here to chat!
u're right i never give up and never surrender)
what i wish u is keep on trying;)

mmm... Tu as le petit copain français?

I am sorry guys ... and girls but you chating reminds me of old English aristocrats... So cool...

good for you, honey:)
I have no problem with people making mistakes as long as they dont tell other people that they make mistakes...so it's all cool, let's keep on chatting and practicing, shan't we?:D

P.S. I'm gald you never give up! One should never give up! I'm the same;)

so what? what's the point of what u just said?
yeah, i'm a local redneck, that's no mistery.:p
i thanked the girl for supporting my POV.
there was no irony in my "thanx"

:D hahahaha!!! why so?
u have a rich experience chatting with the british arietocracy?:p

Habla espanol? ou Sprechst du die deutch?

OU... Les français ... Il sont cool

all i know in french is
lasorange surletojer (i only know how it should sound, but don't know how to spell it, so...)
it would be translated as oranges on the shelf which means that someone's got big boobs))))

I don't know... You know better than I do... But everything is just so relaxed so snoby... A beautiful mixture of an aristocrat with a redneck

ok...mates)))

Woul keepn that in mind:)

and which side do You take now?:p

Yeah, but there is also a noun "human".
I remember an old pc-game where an alien (I mean a creature that came from space to take over the Earth :) ) said: "Naive human!" after murdering a guy :D

Les oranges sur l'etagère

I like you both;)

I am just wondering... What is lol?

it's impossible, you must make a choice lol ;)

p.s. Oh lol= *laughing out loud* chat thing:)

Laughing Out Loud

Hablo un poco... Comprendo ... Ich wolle spreche:(

ooh... That is cool!!!!

Coz your hubby is from UK, ah? :-) :-)

Je sais je suis tres con :) Did you know that PTO - page turn over?

Well... the thing is that I like snobs and unfortunately rednecks also... But it doesn't mean anything... "mates" doesn't work like that

guess there is noone to talk to anymore:) oh well...:)

Bla bla bla I speak...)))

Aha.. Maybe on some other than Earth planet certain aliens think that "human" is a noun, Earth hasn't been taken by them yet ;) Haven't you noticed? :D Now seriously, even though that sometimes certain individuals treat "human" as a noun in some situation or context it is not academic English nor grammatically correct. Comprehend I?

Dear Nego and Katomba

I’ve just read this thread in its entirety and I have to pronounce that I have never had the misfortune to peruse such a pitiful load of claptrap from two non-native speakers of the English language. I strongly suggest that your English be perfected prior to commenting on the shortcomings of others posting here. NO non-native speaker will ever be a perfect enunciator and NO non-native speaker will ever fully understand the intricacies of the 140+ accentsand dialects spoken in the UK! Throw into this quagmire the many idioms and colloquialisms and you may understand my point.

English is a fluid, malleable language, pitted with a million, apparently irrelevant, minutiae. To a native speaker these are differentiated by context and the subsequent appropriacy of words and lexis. It is a transmogrifying language that has been through many metamorphosises over the centuries and, as such, it continues to change to this day. Shakespeare himself coined an estimated 1600-1700 new words and phrases that are still in use today. English speakers, native and otherwise, are free to express their thoughts using a variety of pre-existing or novel collocations as their mood sees fit. So long as the message is transmitted successfully and they have generated sufficient understanding so as to communicate, they are thus practitioners of English.

I would suggest to both of you, that maybe it would be better to assist than to criticise. To those who wish to continue practising their English, please do so, but ignore these two ingrates, since they are clearly more interested in massaging their egos rather than helping people to learn.

Sincerely yours,
English Teacher

PS. Before you ask, I am extremely well qualified to redress you.

PPS. The word “human” is both a noun and an adjective… learn to use a dictionary

I hereby correct you:

"Maybe on some planet, other than Earth, certain aliens believe that 'human' is a noun, Earth hasn't been taken over by them yet. Haven't you noticed? Now seriously, even though certain individuals sometimes treat 'human' as a noun in some situations and contexts, it is neither academic English nor grammatically correct. Do you understand?

Let me point something out to you...

You mentioned in one of your posts "stylistic differences", or some such notion. Well, I can tell you this: if you wish to be consdered as an underclass, then continue with the double-negations which you apparently prefer. They are never correct and only an uneducated pauper would deign to use such things. If you want to be categorised as this type of person, then so be it. In the vague paragraph above, you have failed to respond to the questions in hand and therefore I can only summise that you have no specific answer and are therefore hypothesising.

PS. I think the phrase you are looking for is "a more than adequate explanation".

PPS. I can assure you that La Vida's English is significantly better that the diatribe you have presented here...

PPPS. A further example of your inadequacies:
I see the someone say 'should of' for the first time in my life
I have seen seen someone write.........
Actually this is a common problem with UK children because the correct pronunciation is the same, but I'm sure you knew that, oh great lexicon!

Hey, people... What is wrong with you??? What is the matter on which dialect of UK, USA, Australia, New Zealand , Canada or whatever we are speaking. You prefer to corect each other all the time, showing how smart you all are ...I would advice all of you just to speake and have fun...English is abeautiful language, certainly when it is alive, not dead

Christine, I was simply showing these two people that they should not criticise people trying. If you hadn't guessed, I'm English and, yes, I know that this is a beautiful language. These two people wait and watch and then only say something when they think someone has made a mistake - it's just dumb.